upgrade disabled due compliance can t run

I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message

I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

Because Every Time I Post It Says Error Posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

Because I hate newsgroups and was hoping that someone from Microsoft would respond!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

It's a known bug. It's been around a while.
"SB" wrote in message

Because Every Time I Post It Says Error Posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

"SB" wrote in message

I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message

I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

Colin --
At what point wil it occur to you that the community morons paid to look after the web interface for these groups are too stupid and lazy to fix the duplicate post bug and fundamental elements in that news group including limited slow downloads of messages from the server and a panoply of other features? I mean it's been going on intermittently for months over the years.
How un-Ray Ozziesque--what do the idiots do for their paycheck?
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

It's been around for a while because the mornons that run community are four plus stupid. How long does it take for them to see the multiple posts, and then call IT or whatever the hell fixes things at Redmond for them for help? Surely they have a developer at Redmond--or perhaps they could use one of the dozens of outside coders MSFT has hired to debug Vista at 3-4 grand per day.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

It's a known bug. It's been around a while.
"SB" wrote in message Because Every Time I Post It Says Error Posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

It doesn't matter what occurs to me. I can't fix it. All I can do is advise people that they are not doing something wrong and learn to work around it.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message

Colin --
At what point wil it occur to you that the community morons paid to look after the web interface for these groups are too stupid and lazy to fix the duplicate post bug and fundamental elements in that news group including limited slow downloads of messages from the server and a panoply of other features? I mean it's been going on intermittently for months over the years.
How un-Ray Ozziesque--what do the idiots do for their paycheck?
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys you, try Windows Mail.
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message

Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed immediately.
You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be? My take and I value yours is:
1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was out of our regular scope.
2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and certainly not as uniform as they could be.
3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some improvements with Win Mail.
I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however, because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as they consume our products so we can get our toys."
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message

Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed immediately.
You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be? My take and I value yours is:
1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was out of our regular scope.
2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and certainly not as uniform as they could be.
3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some improvements with Win Mail.
I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however, because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as they consume our products so we can get our toys."
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

"MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether." Pretty brief Colin. And just leave the terribly crappy web interface? Neither of them cost them much in the way of server space on their farm or resources personnel wise. They seem to be involved to the point of almost never. Take a look at that thing. And why would they like to drop the NNTP technology all together--and if they did others would step in--there are scores of alternative readers, and many of them if not all, may be much better.
What's the logic in their thinking? Where's your source for this--personal communication or somewhere on web because if it's a place I can read I'd like to see it.
If they did, I'd just use one of the many 3rd parties for using groups.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed immediately.
You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be? My take and I value yours is:
1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was out of our regular scope.
2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and certainly not as uniform as they could be.
3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some improvements with Win Mail.
I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however, because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as they consume our products so we can get our toys."
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

There were some discussions with MS folks in the TechBeta last year and the maintenance of NNTP technology is a big issue at MS. It is a very old technology and MS would like something much newer. I don't think any roadmap is resolved but MS is clearly unhappy supporting NNTP.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message

"MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether." Pretty brief Colin. And just leave the terribly crappy web interface? Neither of them cost them much in the way of server space on their farm or resources personnel wise. They seem to be involved to the point of almost never. Take a look at that thing. And why would they like to drop the NNTP technology all together--and if they did others would step in--there are scores of alternative readers, and many of them if not all, may be much better.
What's the logic in their thinking? Where's your source for this--personal communication or somewhere on web because if it's a place I can read I'd like to see it.
If they did, I'd just use one of the many 3rd parties for using groups.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed immediately.
You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be? My take and I value yours is:
1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was out of our regular scope.
2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and certainly not as uniform as they could be.
3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some improvements with Win Mail.
I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however, because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as they consume our products so we can get our toys."
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!

If newer is better than why not? I could never understand why the makers of IE wouldn't pull someone fromDean Hachamovitch's IE team to quickly cleanup and improve the web interface. This may become a little academic if the feature of Win Mail to access groups gets enough publicity.
The groups are tremendously underused as an educational tool. I can't tell you how many people I ask if they've taken a problem to the groups who don't understand what you're referencing. I know MSFT mentions them on different pages, with links to the web interface, but it seems to get ignored.
I wish they'd let people know they can reach them via a single click in Win Mail now.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

There were some discussions with MS folks in the TechBeta last year and the maintenance of NNTP technology is a big issue at MS. It is a very old technology and MS would like something much newer. I don't think any roadmap is resolved but MS is clearly unhappy supporting NNTP.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message "MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether." Pretty brief Colin. And just leave the terribly crappy web interface? Neither of them cost them much in the way of server space on their farm or resources personnel wise. They seem to be involved to the point of almost never. Take a look at that thing. And why would they like to drop the NNTP technology all together--and if they did others would step in--there are scores of alternative readers, and many of them if not all, may be much better.
What's the logic in their thinking? Where's your source for this--personal communication or somewhere on web because if it's a place I can read I'd like to see it.
If they did, I'd just use one of the many 3rd parties for using groups.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed immediately.
You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be? My take and I value yours is:
1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was out of our regular scope.
2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and certainly not as uniform as they could be.
3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some improvements with Win Mail.
I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however, because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as they consume our products so we can get our toys."
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community" morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?
CH
"SB" wrote in message I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP. The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003 - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 - 2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance Check cannot be run. Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!